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Seminar on the Way: Liturgical Perspectives on the Lutheran/Roman Catholic Dialog


John Baldovin [email protected]
Thomas Schattauer [email protected]


This seminar focuses on the specific issues about  Eucharist, church, and ministry identified in the ELCA/USCCB document "Declaration on the Way," issues that concern the potential achievement of Lutheran/Roman Catholic full communion. The seminar is open to all members of the Academy, and its work will proceed from the conviction that these issues, especially as they affect liturgical practice,rightly concern all Christians.

2020 Seminar Agenda

We anticipate the following presentations at this time, not necessarily in this order:

1. A joint statement in progress from Jim Puglisi and Gordon Lathrop with remarks from John Baldovin and Tom Schattauer.

2. A recent piece from Gordon on liturgical ecclesiology. (Note also his book, Holy People)

3. Martin Seltz on how the Joint Declaration on Justification can impact our work in the seminar.

4. Tim Brunk – preliminary questions on eucharistic sharing

5. Ben Durheim on eucharistic sharing

6. Neil Alexander and/or Ruth Meyers with some reflections from an Anglican/Episcopal point of view.

2019 Seminar Agenda
Friday, January 4

9:45-12:15     Seminars (2-1/2 hrs):
Opening words, introductions, etc.
Session on eucharistic sacrifice
-   Maxwell Johnson, “Recent Thoughts on the Roman Anaphora: Sacrifice in the Canon Missae” (forthcoming in Ecclesia Orans)
-   David Turnbloom on eucharistic sacrifice

12:15-1:45     Lunch (on your own) with Sidebars

1:45-3:15      Seminars (1-1/2 hrs):
Continuing session on eucharistic sacrifice
-   Gordon Lathrop to present for discussion Enrico Mazza, “Eucharistic Prayer as Sacrifice: The Testimony of the Ancient Anaphoras on the Sacrificial Conception of the Eucharist”
-   Review and discuss seminar work on eucharistic sacrifice (this year and last): what are the liturgical perspectives that bear on this question in the dialogues?

3:15-4:15       Break/Networking

4:15-6:15       Seminars (2 hrs):
Session on ELCA sacramental practices
-   Melinda Quivik and Martin Seltz on The Use of the Means of Grace
-   response by John Baldovin
-   Identify other “practice” documents to look at

Report on contributions from international dialogue partners
-   Kathryn Johnson to present the Finnish dialogue document Communion in Growth and to report on the international discussions of Declaration on the Way

Saturday, January 5
8:45-10:45   Seminars (2 hrs):

Session on ordination
-   James Puglisi, “Ordination: An Ecclesiological, Pneumatological and Eschatological Approach”
-   Joseph Donnella on ordination
-   Review and discuss seminar work on ordination: what are the liturgical perspectives that bear on this question in the dialogues?

1:30-3:00     Seminars (1-1/2 hrs):
Begin envisioning a document from the seminar
-   to offer liturgical perspectives on “remaining differences” and “reconciling considerations”
-   to make liturgical proposals for “intermediate steps” on the way to full communion

Consideration of papers for January 2020

2018 Seminar Agenda

Friday, January 5
10:30 AM
Initial discussion of the Declaration on the Way document

1:30 PM
Paul Westermeyer and Virgil Funk: Two Church Musicians Reflect on Full Communion Issues

4 PM
Bruce Morrill and Gordon Lathrop On Eucharistic Sacrifice

Saturday, January 6
9:30 AM
Ben Durheim   Sacramental Ethics and Ecumenism
John Baldovin  North American Lutheran Eucharistic Praying

Jennifer Lord and Neil Alexander   Reformed and Episcopalian Responses

Planning for 2019 Election of Convener/Conveners